The Story of My AP Royal Oak Offshore Disaster . . .

Jul 10, 2021,14:10 PM
 

Well, the time has come to tell the story of my AP Royal Oak Offshore "Carbon" -- a very dear watch indeed. I did not care to relay this story until the watch was safely moved on to a new owner because I didn't want to "taint" the sale in any way.


One day I opened my watch box and discovered this:


Aside from the dust (which is magnified in the photo), you can see the ceramic pusher was gone! I searched throughout the watch box for it and finally concluded that it fell off while I was wearing it, I didn't notice, and put it back in the box that way.

Since I love the piece so much, I figured, "Okay, I'll just call AP and get them to send me a new pusher and it will probably just snap back in. Maybe cost me a couple hundred dollars, right?" Not so fast. After much back and forth, it was established that AP Service would not sell the pusher alone and would only allow me to fix this problem by submitting the watch for a full service at $1,500.00!! I decided that I would do this because even though the watch was purchased second-hand, it probably had never been serviced anyway, so the time was right for service as it was manufactured in 2014 and it is 2021 now. So off it went to service and a 6-8 week wait began.

About 2 weeks in, I was contacted by the Service Center. They told me that they have been unable to certify the watch for water resistance and upon further inspection, they determined that the bezel, while made of ceramic, was not authentic AP and added after the watch was originally marketed!! What? Why would anyone do this? And how much would it cost to put the correct bezel on there? The answer: $2,250.00!

At this point, I contacted the seller and initiated the assertion that this was his responsibility and not mine. The seller turned out to be a "stand up" guy -- he contacted the prior owner (whom he had bought from) and, even though the P.O. wouldn't take responsibility for it, my seller did! (My seller could be characterized as an "amateur dealer" -- but now I would add that he is a friend for life!)

I am a small businessman by trade, so naturally, even though their reputation is very high, I insisted to the AP Service Center that the "fake" bezel be returned along with the repaired watch. This took some back and forth as well before they finally approved of it.

The watch came back a couple of weeks later in perfect condition. The "fake" bezel was in the package and upon close examination, I could see that the openings for the eight bolts were not perfectly milled, hence leading to the waterproofing issues. I had decided that no way would I keep this watch and I actually have sworn off ROO's that have the "rectangular" pushers -- even the new 43mm line. I like them, but I don't care to take any risk like this. It has now been about six weeks since the watch was sold as a freshly serviced piece still under warranty and the saga ended!


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Glad your seller stood behind the watch. Obviously, this situation has nothing to do with AP.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 10th, 2021-14:29
The reality is, as watches change hands, how does one really know the history? I received my new 43mm Offshore a few weeks ago, and it has a 5 year warranty, If my pusher falls off in the next 5 years, AP will replace it at no cost. I like having a factor... 

I can attest the after sales services from AP boutique is top notch and boy do I needed that!

 
 By: Fjan : July 10th, 2021-17:26
I own 44mm in RGx2 and SS .. my own tough luck, all three of my ROO44mm have technical issues. They either stopped or the date wheel jammed and the chronograph second hands will not return to the 0 position ie misalignment issues. My first SS stopped comp... 

Interesting story

 
 By: Weems@8 : July 10th, 2021-15:27
A real journey you made with the Royal Oak. Read the story, maybe the imitation basel is more a protection basel. Token off to save the original. So the first seller maybe had the original basel, stored in a bag. Forgotten to give. My way should be, hold ... 

What an ordeal !!!

 
 By: Lankysudanese : July 10th, 2021-15:54
A horror story for sure. Imagine if the pusher hadn't have fallen, and you sold the watch or gifted it to someone; it would have eventually looked like you had sold someone an imperfect watch. Anyway, glad to hear that it's all over now. Just don't let it... 

Not sure about what this has to do with AP Jim, sounds like they acted perfectly responsibly...

 
 By: oyster case : July 10th, 2021-15:59
and the watch was completely restored to original and is warranted for two years. I had mine sent to AP for full service as part of the condition of sale. My watch came back as new and I couldn’t be happier with it or with all my dealings with the brand. ... 

True or not, it has nothing to do with the jimmied sample you owned.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 10th, 2021-16:43
You were wearing a watch with a fake bezel. Who knows what else was done to it along the way. Problems happen for sure. I own or have owned a handful of ceramic pusher Offshores and have never had a single issue. I will go by my own experience instead of ... 

Crazy story, glad it all worked out! Thanks for sharing, I didn't know fake ROO bezels were even a thing but seeing the price for a new OEM one I guess is makes sense....

 
 By: Fastwong : July 10th, 2021-17:52
Back in 2014 would this watch have come from AP new with a ceramic or a carbon bezel? I suppose back in 2014 if my carbon bezel got chewed up and a replacement ceramic bezel from AP was $2250 + $1500 + 6-8 weeks I might have tried an aftermarket bezel too... 

It is unpleasant surprise

 
 By: Jari from Finland : July 10th, 2021-19:12
When you take your watch for a smallish fix and you hear a sum of nearly 4 k dollars before anything has even been done.

ROO rectangular pushers have nothing to do with selling the watch...

 
 By: oyster case : July 10th, 2021-19:43
In February he actually told me about the rare risk of this happening and said “ have to warn you of one other thing -- some owners of these pieces complained that the titanium "trim" on the pushers fell off -- I looked into this...Again, I felt that if s... 

@oyster case

 
 By: Jim14 : July 10th, 2021-22:47
The comments I made in February were well before I had any knowledge about the swapped bezel. And the decision to sell off the watch was after the pusher fell off but still before I knew about the swapped bezel. And I made that decision for the reasons st... 

When you say you waited six weeks after the sale so as not to “taint” the purchase that’s you suggesting something was hidden...

 
 By: oyster case : July 10th, 2021-23:30
Jim, you told me you’d heard this does very rarely happen and that if it did AP could easily make it right. Coincidentally then this exact thing happens and AP does make it right but now you swear off rectangular pushers? After stating? This is my fourth ... 

Sorry to hear that ordeal took so long

 
 By: afaleh : July 10th, 2021-22:02
Glad things worked out however!

Thank Goodness all is now well

 
 By: sschew : July 11th, 2021-00:08
Glad you had a good outcome!!!

My ceramic pusher fell off!

 
 By: kennygfunk : July 16th, 2021-01:38
I LOVE AP, but to be honest, I've never purchased an AP and not had an issue: a crown popped out (2 different offshores), the paint on a tachymeter peeled off, and a ceramic pusher fell off! AP should invest in more rigorous testing! I'm sure it's challen...