It's neither fish nor flesh

Jul 14, 2021,21:29 PM
 

It's a sort of hybrid watch.
It can't definitely be seen as a dress watch mostly because it's too thick, the chrono feature provides more unbalance to the dial, because of the counters and hands.
And please, remove the date.

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Hi AP fans, Thanks to your comments and questions on my last post, I happily :-) “forced” myself to go back to AP House to check out the code 11.59 line-up !

 
 By: GLau : July 14th, 2021-14:38
Left: 3rd generation , Middle: 2nd generation, Right: 1st generation Thanks to the helpfulness and patience of the same senior sales associate Vincent whom I met previously, I was fortunate enough to inspect and compare three generations of the 11.59. The...  

Thanks aris, I would love to see a

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-16:48
rendering of the dial with minute markers.

I like the chronos

 
 By: shafran : July 14th, 2021-18:14
I like everything except the time only.

Why do you

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-16:48
not like the time only ? Too plain ?

Not good I'm afraid

 
 By: sschew : July 14th, 2021-18:20
Didn't know Daniel Wellington or Police watches cost so much. Sorry for me no bueno!!!

No worries: To each his/her own !

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-16:50
Why do you think they look like Daniel Wellington or Police watches ?

Not impressed (with the design)

 
 By: rgabrielsoto : July 14th, 2021-18:38
The build quality, technical nature of the watch, and the movement are all impeccable but IMHO the "less is more" design strategy here has missed the mark.

Fair comments from you. What design would

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-16:51
you like to see ?

Good question

 
 By: rgabrielsoto : July 24th, 2021-16:26
And to be fair, design a new dial is HARD so maybe I’m being a bit too hard.

It's neither fish nor flesh

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : July 14th, 2021-21:29
It's a sort of hybrid watch. It can't definitely be seen as a dress watch mostly because it's too thick, the chrono feature provides more unbalance to the dial, because of the counters and hands. And please, remove the date.

ummm...I see what you meant by the thickness not appropriate for a dress watch. To me, perhaps only two

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:02
subdials are needed to make the dial more balanced. Agree with your assessment on removal of the date.

Getting better

 
 By: AlexLau.ar : July 15th, 2021-05:27
There are only a handful of RO collectors I know that has bought the Code and liked it, and not because they needed to get some credit. They are getting better, but I would like to see sword hands/ something with a bit more presence, and I am not a fan of... 

To me, enhancements on each generation have been attained. AP must be working

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:11
hard and investing a lot to ensure its collectors accept the code.

Which do you

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:11
not like about the dials ? color scheme, design or the combination ?

I think photos don't do justice...

 
 By: pfang56 : July 15th, 2021-08:59
I may be biased but after seeing the blue dial and ceramic in the flesh, I must say that the dials, case, crystal, and new movement, the CODE Chronographs definitely hold a soft spot in my heart. If you see below - there seems to be a nice fit of the CODE...  

Demand is definitely increasing.

 
 By: shafran : July 15th, 2021-09:18
To say that Ro owners are not pining for the code is possibly true, but the goal of ap was not to get ap owners interested, it was to get people interested in ap who don't necessarily love the ro/roo. It was to bring in a new breed of ap lovers. I do actu... 

Great point…

 
 By: pfang56 : July 15th, 2021-09:37
I think for some RO collectors like me, it was a good brand extension that fed my appetite for the brand. I’m also glad to see de novo collectors joining in as well - I bet the new members are even more passionate than the old, like me Look forward to see... 

Hi Peter, which version is

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:18
your second code ?

Waiting for your “third gen” version :)

 
 By: pfang56 : July 18th, 2021-07:35
But who knows if there will be new dials or movements between now and then. I’m super happy with my blue aventurine dial so probably better to diversify into other colors… Cheers Peter

Congrats in advance in getting a code !

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:17
Which one will it be ? Look forwarding to reading your review and wrist shots !

I went with 2nd gen

 
 By: shafran : July 18th, 2021-11:24
It has a two tone sandwich case. Great watch for the summer and when i go down to Florida. ...  

Thanks Peter for your thoughtful comments ! AP must be

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:16
happy to have collectors like you to appreciate the different aspects of the code.

Thanks…

 
 By: pfang56 : July 18th, 2021-07:47
Perhaps first time seeing it online when it was released, I was not totally bought into the concept, but after experiencing it first hand on the wrist, and also vis-a-vis other AP models and “sporty dress” models of other brands I realized it fits extreme... 

Had a Look at the 1st Gen a Long while ago.

 
 By: nafetS : July 15th, 2021-10:48
Liked the case a lot, even though it's too large for me (and judging from the pictures it seems to be too large for your wrist as well). The whole dial - index - hands configuration seemed to be very generic to me, though. Not much character there. Also n... 

?

 
 By: PalmSprings : July 15th, 2021-18:52
Do they really say it's 3 generations in 2 years time?

I think gen 2 and 3 are the same, its just that the smoked grey

 
 By: shafran : July 16th, 2021-09:22
has the ceramic middle case. Some of gen 2 have a two tone, white gold with rose gold middle case.

yes, I was told that

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:20
the ceramic middle case represents the third generation. What is your understanding ?

...

 
 By: PalmSprings : July 18th, 2021-09:39
I'm amazed how fast they are moving and progressing in their case design and overall development.

I've yet to see a Code in person, always crucial to forming a valid impression.

 
 By: oyster case : July 17th, 2021-00:02
The watches tv video with Michael Friedman has some great shots of it. I've also seen some tremendous pics by owners. The curved sapphire and interplay of polished and beveled surfaces in combination with the case architecture likely benefit from live vie... 

would love to hear your thoughts after you have seen the code in the metal !

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:23
Do you mean AP watches are not sold in Canada ? No multi brand stores that carry AP ?

Was AP ever sold in Canada ?

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-17:43
I wonder why currently there are no boutiques and ADs.

To me, that should mean...

 
 By: GLau : July 17th, 2021-18:00
boutiques are coming !

I am interested in the new WG / Ceramic model

 
 By: MichaelC : July 19th, 2021-01:48
I love the blackened ceramic case middle captured within the contrasting skeleton frame. It is a great design. Thanks for your report!

You are welcome Michael ! I enjoyed writing up this report and it was a good learning experience !

 
 By: GLau : July 19th, 2021-15:20
What color is the dial of the new WG / Ceramic model ?

Just like the RG/ceramic

 
 By: MichaelC : July 21st, 2021-03:05
But with white gold markers. I hope to see one live!

Nice write up!

 
 By: Conkers : July 21st, 2021-12:04
A fair an objective assessment. Thanks for taking the time to post G.

Thanks conkers! Have you

 
 By: GLau : July 21st, 2021-15:07
gotten a code yet ?

Not yet!

 
 By: Conkers : July 21st, 2021-22:42

Hi Justin, will you be

 
 By: GLau : July 24th, 2021-15:11
getting a Code soon ?😄

Hmm, that is the million dollar question. If I do get a Code, it would most likely be the Perpetual Calendar with aventurine dial or the new chrono with the ceramic mid case as it looked amazing when I tried it on...

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : July 26th, 2021-22:12
I just would have preferred the ceramic to be on the outer case to protect against scratches and the mid case to be gold. Just makes more logical sense but who am I to say what makes sense for AP 🤣😜

Haha 😂 don’t sell yourself short, AP would be happy for your input I’m sure 🙂

 
 By: oyster case : July 27th, 2021-02:25
But Michael Friedman did say in a recent video that a ceramic outer case is not possible due to the lug architecture. Makes sense, hollow, fairly thin skeleton lugs in ceramic are too risky. I think he then hinted at some new materials in the pipeline.

It’s because the lugs only attach to the case at a single very small point

 
 By: hub6152 : July 30th, 2021-01:12
which simply wouldn’t be strong enough given that ceramic is brittle and a lug can break if subjected to a lateral impact.

Justin, you should therefore receive from your AD a

 
 By: GLau : July 29th, 2021-02:16
discount for buying the code ! 😇

I will write a

 
 By: GLau : July 31st, 2021-15:22
Letter of Recommendation for you that begs for a discount !😉

Hi Justin, should we

 
 By: GLau : August 4th, 2021-15:18
split the discount I get you by 50/50 ?

Deal Gordon 😜🤝🤝🤛

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : August 7th, 2021-22:33

I love mine and prefer the time only

 
 By: hub6152 : July 30th, 2021-01:16
as I felt the Chronograph model of the burgundy dial I bought had just too much going on for the smoked effect of the dial to fully play itself, and it was the that smoked burgundy colour that pulled me towards the Code in the first place. ...  

These smoky dials are

 
 By: GLau : July 31st, 2021-15:23
great looking ! Can stare at them all day long !