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Thx for pics. Not surprised tho.
Jan 18, 2022,18:57 PM
Yes, makes sense why great craftspeople are starting / joining 'smaller' independents. It truly does bring joy that impressively talented parts and watchmakers are now able to produce the quality they know is possible beyond typical 'corporate standards'.
Kari's upcoming releases should be crazy great I bet!
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Lange vs Patek comparison
By: afaleh : January 18th, 2022-18:28
Yet more of this most excellent watch, the first gen DS, reportedly the best finishing Lange has ever done, and compared to the Patek 5170p. This was another exercise done for a watch group I recently joined, I do hope you enjoy and would very much apprec...
Thx for pics. Not surprised tho.
By: enjoythemusic : January 18th, 2022-18:57
Yes, makes sense why great craftspeople are starting / joining 'smaller' independents. It truly does bring joy that impressively talented parts and watchmakers are now able to produce the quality they know is possible beyond typical 'corporate standards'....
Both are excellent! But keep in mind of the material differences!
By: patrick_y : January 18th, 2022-19:51
Keep in mind, Lange movement parts are made of German Silver which is a material where a higher polish is able to be achieved, compared to the rhodium plated brass movement parts that Geneve style manufacturers use. Thus, a comparison between the two isn'...
Yes! You're right!
By: patrick_y : January 18th, 2022-20:12
The thickness gives a special rigidity among other things. Finishing ultra-thin movement parts is exceptionally difficult, as the parts are so thin that you don't want to damage them or distort them while finishing them. Neither of these are ultra-thin mo...
+1!
By: amanico : January 19th, 2022-03:35
Patek is nice but The Lange is on another level
By: descartes1 : January 18th, 2022-23:04
Also, I don’t understand why Patek puts a cap on the column wheel. It’s one of the most fascinating parts of the movement. Why cover it? The cap looks like something unappealing is being hidden and there’s nothing attractive or interesting about it. ...
Just going to throw this out there: don't see what you guys are seeing
By: mafoofan : January 18th, 2022-23:29
It seems to be the internet-wide default position that Lange finishing is better than Patek's. Maybe true, maybe not. However, when I look at photos like these, I don't see any observable difference in finishing quality. Yes, the style is very different, ...
primarily i'm appealing to a qualified authority
By: Francoamerican : January 19th, 2022-04:25
but that patek has no inward angles on their new mid range movements whereas vacheron does (as does this lange) is pretty specific. Patek had inward angles on the 5070g. Also the width of the anglage i guess i'd need to highlight where the width of the pa...
I’ve seen many videos and examined the watches in person.
By: mafoofan : January 20th, 2022-06:22
I’m less interested in overall impressions, which are prone to style preferences, and more interested in specific details that folks feel distinguish the quality of finishing execution between one movement and the other.
I'm curious about specifics too, just to learn about the differences...
By: CR : January 22nd, 2022-17:45
Whenever anyone says "a Lange ___ movement needs to be compared with an equivalent Patek ___" movement, I wonder, "Exactly how much time, effort, and skill does it take to build and finish each of those supposedly comparable movements?" I'm less intereste...
Wow. Glad I clicked on this thread
By: Nicetomeetyou : January 19th, 2022-00:50
I’ve heard the only sad thing about Lange movements is that the patina on the german silver disappears upon factory servicing.
Great discussion guys
By: afaleh : January 19th, 2022-06:08
Really glad we have this discussion going, I am learning quite a bit as I read through these response and online articles. Let’s keep going with more specifics please
Great photos and an interesting topic
By: russell996 : January 19th, 2022-08:38
A better comparison I venture to suggest is to compare the 5370 movement to the Double split. The 5370, and all the more complicated pieces above it in the Patek Grand Complications line up, are double assembled just like the Lange and the finishing is su...
Brilliantly taken macros.....
By: Rhyzen : January 19th, 2022-14:57
.... Where every single detail is under scrutiny. Lange is clearly in a class of its own.
If this is going to be the comparison,
By: Time to watch : January 19th, 2022-21:31
I will say that I’d take the finishing and wearability and dial beauty of the Patek over the Lange. Sure I have a horse in this race, but my decision was based on the above. Finishing alone is not the end all be all. Patek excels in the total package. I f...
Good points.
By: houstonian : January 20th, 2022-02:38
I agree that Patek dials and case shapes are generally more creative and more artistic than Lange, and I typically find them more attractive. It seems like some are offended if Patek isn’t voted best in every area. In the area that OP was asking about (mo...
But no brand is ahead in every area.
By: Time to watch : January 20th, 2022-03:50
There are always compromises that have to be made. Lange is not only ahead in movement finishing but also in price. Most Langes offer great value when compared to similar pieces from their competitors. An 1815 chrono vs a 5170 is an example.
Was at the AD the other day
By: montecristo#2 : January 21st, 2022-13:05
Had my Gen 1 Datograph on and had the opportunity to compare to a Patek 5960. I would pick the Lange as better across the board. Design, feel, presence, dial, movement, finishing…. It is basically a rout. Of course a lot of this is personal preference of ...
Completely agree.
By: houstonian : January 21st, 2022-20:44
Few things in life are better than a Gen 1 Dato. As for Dato vs 5170p, a much harder decision. Dato wins the movement and the 5170 wins dial and case (for me).