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Over all the watch appealing to me. Nice detail execution.
Oct 25, 2019,04:54 AM
However, it strongly reminds me of this:
and that is a problem... It just doesn't feel like a novelty... And certainly, being 5 times cheaper as well as being on the radar from the "beginning of times, Rolex" IMHO is unquestionably a winner.
JK
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Hands on review of the Lange & Söhne Odysseus
By: foversta : October 24th, 2019-05:02
An important event was required (if not mandatory) to celebrate fittingly the 25th anniversary of Lange & Söhne. And the presentation of the new Odysseus watch, the first of the 6th family of the catalog is a milestone one. The 24th of October, 1994 w...
Thank you for the great review, dear FX!
By: jack johnson : October 24th, 2019-05:09
As to the watch itself - I say Nay. The bracelet seems to be heavily based on the IWC pilot's watch bracelet construction-wise (links removal system, clasp) and is not appealing to me aesthetically.
Not sure about that bracelet...
By: Codes : October 24th, 2019-05:16
Also surprised there are no models with other complications like power reserve, dual time, etc...
Great presentation & review.
By: RGS : October 24th, 2019-05:22
Case and movement all good. The dial is pure ALS, but needs getting used to in the context of the steel sports watch theme. Bracelet and clasp are a design problem and look aesthetically inelegant. Put it on a composite strap and see what happens. I am no...
Thanks a lot for this excellent introduction to this new ALS timepiece, Fx.
By: Pretty Boy : October 24th, 2019-05:33
As I said in a previous thread that was deleted (for good reason), I’m really positively surprised. It’s a fantastic looking sporty watch that is still recognizable as an ALS at first sight (which is a good thing). Its look is noticeably different from th...
Thank you for the great summary.
By: Grisar : October 24th, 2019-05:40
The watch as well as the strap are not inspiring in my very own opinion though. It's bulky and without brilliant design elements. The movement is on par with the recent entry and medium level movements from Lange, no gold chatons any longer, the engraving...
Excellent presentation review.
By: VMM : October 24th, 2019-05:52
I like it because it's a Lange, but I feel nothing special. That bracelet, ouch! Thanks for sharing. Vte
I agree
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : October 24th, 2019-05:58
Why anyone should buy this one instead of a Lange 1? Because it's steel made? Because there's a bracelet? A pleasant watch, but not the Lange I like the most
Nice watch but
By: aris d : October 24th, 2019-06:00
it isn't groundbreaking as the RO or the Nautilus was. Of course it will be sold well. Aris
Thanks for the review. I like this watch from Lange.
By: M4 : October 24th, 2019-06:07
Very nice dimensions. Nice dial symmetry and displays. And I like the bracelet. This one's not on my short list, though, until it's available in a dial color other than blue. I have a serious case of the blues, which has been the fad color of choice for t...
Great review
By: loccp-1 : October 24th, 2019-06:18
Thanks for the review Looks differently from those leak photos Anyway the bracelet looks a bit wide, but can’t do justice at the moment Will wait to see it in real metal Thanks again!
Thank you for the Details. One or two questions:
By: nafetS : October 24th, 2019-06:21
- Is the Odysseus a watch or is it a watch Family (such as Saxonia, 1815, lange 1,...), the "Odysseus datomatic" being the First and possibly leading to other Odysseus watches with different complications? - Did ALS mention something, whether there will b...
Agreed
By: colton_d : October 24th, 2019-11:48
I've never been a first-mover, and think the best may be yet to come. There is definite promise here!
You’re fast Fx...aren’t you !
By: mahesh : October 24th, 2019-06:28
Movements from ALS are never a doubt...gorgeous they’re!! I’m 50:50 on the dial side
I am sorry..
By: yming : October 24th, 2019-06:35
Lange should stick to dress watches.. The case design is basically same as all other langes except this one has cushion edges on one side.. The day-date windows are really kinda eye soring in my opinion oh man 🤦🏻♂️
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By: mahesh : October 24th, 2019-13:59
I agree, brands need to explore/ expand to new landscapes
Thank you for the impressive work you’ve done.
By: Tyo : October 24th, 2019-06:38
To speak about the watch. I think I like every single piece or part but I don’t appreciate the mix of all. The bracelet is way too large, I don’t like the overall impression between the bracelet and the case. The dial is cool, but the guichet for the date...
A really nice looking watch
By: mjv : October 24th, 2019-07:12
I agree with the list of pros: I really enjoy the aesthetic of the watch. I've grown accustomed to something's on steal sport watches that are missing here, I think, my list of cons would include: 1) Not regulated in 6 positions with a better than COSC ga...
Not impressed to be honest
By: benlee338 : October 24th, 2019-07:19
Dial looks good, but the bracelet... even if it's nicely finished, it reminds me of bracelet from much cheaper brands. No originality and design thoughtfulness to it. Sorry... P/S : Ironically, I think the watch will look much better on a leather or rubbe...
Meh [nt]
By: dhendolan : October 24th, 2019-07:48
Thanks for the review ...
By: Chromatic Fugue : October 24th, 2019-08:05
Alas I am underwhelmed; I can’t get past the unattractive bracelet, and it would defeat the point of a watch like this to wear it without the bracelet.
+1 [nt]
By: jack johnson : October 24th, 2019-08:30
Thanks for the review
By: Jari from Finland : October 24th, 2019-08:15
It was versatile and gave a good information of the watch. It seems that also Lange started manufacturing steel watches, that is current trend as to comes popularity of the sport watches.
Thanks for the live photos!
By: mj23 : October 24th, 2019-08:42
It's a very generic deisgn for a new collection..I am very disappointed...
+1. Well said, Michael.
By: Pretty Boy : October 24th, 2019-09:43
I fully agree. I can see me wearing this watch. I’m pretty sure that in real life it even looks better than on photos.
Well priced?
By: FlyingSnoopy : October 24th, 2019-22:26
I would not really say that. It is rather on the high side... Mind you, I do not say that it should have a lower price.. I agree with you that it offers perspective Cheers
Good question. Didn‘t come to my mind so far.
By: nafetS : October 24th, 2019-09:18
Of course, it supposed to be some sort of crown guard i guess, so it‘s one-sided. But iI would also be interested in seeing, how it would look like with something similar on the other side.
Looks cheap.
By: Catulle : October 24th, 2019-09:21
It looks like so many other watches that try to look like other watches. Lange, please don’t lose the way.
+1 [nt]
By: jim_94104 : October 24th, 2019-10:20
Disappointed.
By: Dmitriy : October 24th, 2019-09:52
Probably the Odysseus model really raises the bar among luxury sports watches, but I see the design in the dial from JLC (Polaris), the bracelet is a symbiosis of JLC and GO. The decor mechanism is inferior to Breguet 777, AP 4302, PP 26-330, VC 5100 ... ...
Brilliant comprehensive review
By: sham1 : October 24th, 2019-10:11
of an average looking watch in my opinion. I wish Lange would focus on what it does best - dress watches and chronographs!
Thanks for the review
By: jim_94104 : October 24th, 2019-10:17
but at approximately three times the price of the Rolex 114060, no thanks.
I see
By: jim_94104 : October 25th, 2019-00:12
from your responses to the comments, as a moderator, I think I understands what this site is truly all about now.
thank you for this great review FX
By: patrickh : October 24th, 2019-10:21
Best coverage to date on this new model and AL&S 6th line. To be wear to give a good advice and the comfort on wrist. Agree with your prso and cons. I should appreciate it more with: - No "AUTOMATIC" wordind on the dial - Instantaneous DAY & DATE chan...
Thanks for the great review Fx
By: Jocke - Bad Santa : October 24th, 2019-10:37
great work at usual but this one will not end up in my collection. Although it breathes ALS quality throughout, it will not be that wow experience that a watch in this price range should give me. So my grail remains the blue Daymatic in Platinum. BTW . Ne...
Daymatic blue is white gold, Jocke
By: COUNT DE MONET : October 24th, 2019-11:06
Have not seen it in real, the blue Daymatic, but the platinum, I did see which is still my favorite.
Fantastic Review...
By: SALMANPK : October 24th, 2019-10:50
Thank you so much, it was great, the watch looks very well made, need to see it in real life, I think different dial colors will change many opinions. Especially in Black and Silver Grey. S
Two explanations:
By: Chromatic Fugue : October 24th, 2019-11:10
(1) it has the trappings of a maritime watch; or (2) the design is lost and a bit at sea. : )
Yes...
By: Mostel : October 31st, 2019-13:24
Hey, they may do a 2.0 of this one... and get it right...
Merci beaucoup, FX!
By: Boris : October 24th, 2019-11:22
You are by far the person I like to read best on the topic of A.L&S, which contributed to my acquisition of a 1815 Auf/Ab. There is a lot to like about this Odysseus: - the dial (both the layout and the color) and hands - the movement - the asymmetric...
I think I know the bracelet I would have liked on this
By: Boris : October 24th, 2019-21:22
The bracelet IWC was making for the Fliegerchronograph 3706 and the UTC - the first version of it, which incidentally had the same link removal mechanism. I do like the clasp and its adjustment mechanism, though, something the IWC bracelet was missing.
What a splendid review!
By: Ouroboros : October 24th, 2019-11:28
Your review is one of my absolute favourite reviews of this timepiece along with this article from Wristreview. Do you have any idea about what material the majority of the rotor is made of?
Yes...
By: foversta : October 24th, 2019-14:43
Yes, the ALS wears smaller. But on the other hand, it looks more subtle and more sophisticated than the Overseas. But the Overseas has a great asset: the easy change of strap system. Thanks! Fx
Agree. [nt]
By: Reuven Malter : October 25th, 2019-03:15
Fx as usual awesome job on the review!
By: TonyR : October 24th, 2019-13:45
I couldn't wait to see/read your write up on the watch this morning. This is a piece that I was very excited about but my initial reaction is one of disappointment. The dial is beautiful and I can live with the case. (although I'm not crazy about the "ear...
Will you be kind enough for the lug-to-lug length?
By: icecube4000 : October 24th, 2019-13:55
Thank you for such a detailed review. Will you kindly share the lug-to-length if you have the measurement or size of your wrist? I need to see one in real life. Bracelet is the big turn-off for me. I have a Lange 1 and was looking at 1815 AC in WG as my s...
Thanks a lot for your
By: MTR : October 24th, 2019-14:55
comprehensive, interesting and very detailed review. Really an impressing work! The first impression of the Odysseus: I think ALS goes in the right direction with this daily wearer. It definitely starts to grow on me but I have to see it in real life (esp...
Great report.
By: russell996 : October 24th, 2019-15:55
Many thanks. 👍
Thank you
By: batholith : October 24th, 2019-16:14
for the wonderful review. I like Lange and really admire their work, but this does not evoke much emotion in me either way. Perhaps when I get to handle one...
Thank you for the great review!
By: Langeholic : October 24th, 2019-17:00
Abit disappointed with this launch. ALS had the opportunity to create something truly groundbreaking or at least stylish. Instead they opted for a rather boring timepiece.
Thank you so much Foversta
By: Gelato Monster : October 24th, 2019-19:06
Very informative and detail analysis. Somehow I don't feel anything, completely nothing with this watch. Perhaps in the future for a different model of Odyssey.
Thank you, Fx! Very thorough and impressive report..
By: Echi : October 24th, 2019-19:41
I pass no judgement at this point. I've seen too many pics to know that a lot changes once a piece is on the wrist. All I can say is that it's good enough to give it room and enough time to be appreciated and not outrightly dismissed. Also, to those who s...
A little divided
By: rnaden : October 24th, 2019-21:09
I like the dial and case design - though I’m still not sure of my feelings of the pushers for the date and day. The finishing of the dial and movement is superb as with all Lange’s, though I wish they had not removed the polished cap from the movement. Th...
amazing review as always, thanks!
By: keks : October 24th, 2019-22:28
I really enjoyed reading it and your pictures are outstanding as always. Polarizing release to say the least, it has opinions circulating like mad and probably for good reason as it is not something expected nor easily digested. For what it is worth here ...
Excellent review...
By: FlyingSnoopy : October 24th, 2019-22:28
The watch seems quite interesting but, to be fair, it has to be seen in metal.. I do like the idea of adjusting the bracelet by yourself without screws... Thank you again Cheers
another comment: as L&S had chosen
By: patrickh : October 24th, 2019-23:29
to not use the classical 3 letters for the Day, they could have a separation between the 2 Day letters and then be more symetrical with the date. Chopard used a special steel metal (scratchless) : "new steel alloy called Lucent Steel A223 . It has the qua...
Thank you Foversta for the VERY detailed review.
By: GreatPilot@me.com : October 25th, 2019-00:15
I have already put an order in for one with my boutique! I hate all the naysayers, not liking the watch (without even seeing it) is one thing but all the complaining, ESPECIALLY COMPARING IT NEGATIVELY TO THE CODE 11.59, WHICH I LIKE AND OWN the perpetual...
I might be in the minority
By: FlyingSnoopy : October 25th, 2019-12:11
But I actually like the Code... I would prefer if the hands were a bit thicker but the the case and the glass are magnificent Enjoy yours
Thank you for the review.
By: Brego : October 25th, 2019-01:04
I cannot wait to see it in the metal. I have a feeling that it will look better on the wrist than in the pictures. I really like the dial with its big windows. A modern yet very Lange take. The case is reasonably sized but I would have liked to have a bro...
Thank you Fx for the detailed review !
By: ZSHSZ : October 25th, 2019-02:16
About the watch : Lange case with Gronefeld dial , OK overall , but the bracelet is a total disaster... Put it on an Oysterflex a la Daytona and I’m in . This is the watch you pick up two years down the road at a serious discount... For this price, I have...
Over all the watch appealing to me. Nice detail execution.
By: J K : October 25th, 2019-04:54
However, it strongly reminds me of this: and that is a problem... It just doesn't feel like a novelty... And certainly, being 5 times cheaper as well as being on the radar from the "beginning of times, Rolex" IMHO is unquestionably a winner. JK ...
I tried it on today in the Boutique
By: NT931 : October 25th, 2019-04:56
The grained dial is quite nice, and the day/date not as obtrusive as I had thought. The bracelet though is far too wide as many have said, and it is a major letdown for me. A strap might save this one though!
Very sad...
By: India Whiskey Charlie : October 25th, 2019-09:47
A first from Lange. The first ugly Lange in history. Bracelet is hideous, cheapens the watch and don’t get me started on the big ugly Day/Date indicators...
Mmm tough crowd...I will reserve final judgement until I handle this.
By: Tim Jackson : October 25th, 2019-11:58
Initially I was surprised and a little shocked to see a steel ALS Sports watch or perhaps better described as a less than a dress watch. I didn't think that was what ALS was about. Then I got to thinking about the Zeitwerk, which to me isn't a classic ALS...
Having handled this watch a fair amount I will say that I LOVE it!
By: DarrenKats : October 25th, 2019-15:34
It was not what I was expecting when I first laid eyes on it in the metal, but it didn't take long to see the Lange DNA all over it. Many of the things that I feel are being nit picked in the close up photos, like the pushers, are quite subtle in person. ...
A very tough crowd.
By: Onemorewatch : October 25th, 2019-17:40
Made me think about the response to the VC Fifty Six, AP Code1159 and most recently the Chopard Alpine Eagle - what a fickle bunch we are - haha. It’s good to see Lange enter this market segment and I will personally reserve judgement until I see it in th...
I have to admit that I'm not a fan of this watch...
By: logan2z : October 25th, 2019-18:27
Besides the bracelet and one-eared case (an odd design choice to be sure), my bigger disappointment is that, for nearly $30K, Lange cannot seem to build a big date complication that puts the two date disks in the same plane - and then they put an unsightl...
Thanks Fx, fantastic review and great pictures 👌🏻
By: 1WatchMan : October 26th, 2019-10:32
I have contradictory thoughts, I love some features and don't like some details. The watch looks very nice on your wrist. I guess it's a watch to be worn, not a watch to be simply "admired". I want to see it in the flesh, not crazy about it but who knows,...
I actually like it
By: Mohannad (aka Riddler) : October 26th, 2019-11:11
Need to see it in reality but I somehow like what I see
The consensus seems to be a "nay" on this new ALS...
By: YpJ : October 26th, 2019-12:05
...however, I can't help but to think that will change after some time has passed. From a sheer aesthetic standpoint, it offers an interesting combination of features (grand Day/Date on a 40mm watch, multiple finishes on a tasteful blue dial, symmetry, mi...
I don’t like this watch at all
By: Mr.Gatsby : October 28th, 2019-10:58
The aesthetics is mediocre, mediocre, mediocre at best. I can’t decide if it’s a dress watch on bracelet or a sports watch. The bracelet looks too refined. It’s nothing like Rolex AP or PP. This is seriously a no go for me, just like many other brands tha...
Could be one that I would like to wear - in fact very much
By: ammerix1 : October 31st, 2019-12:29
except for some misgivings -- not about the bracelet, which many on other sites find "hideous" -- not me! but about the date typography, especially the serifs on the date-of-the week, which are surely there to emphasize the Lange tradition. The week-date ...
Hi Amerix
By: COUNT DE MONET : October 31st, 2019-13:21
I also noticed that the week day is slightly bigger than the date figure(s). A more symetrical look would have been better but still: I think this watch is a triumph! The offered complications are very useful, for the exact reasons you have mentioned. Fur...
Don't like
By: Mostel : October 31st, 2019-13:16
But will keep an open mind. While some sport watches DO have day and date... this one makes them both HUGE SERIOUS complications, which are UNsportwatch-like... emotionally, it's cold, like Lange did not understand the 'adventurous-feeling' of Sport... bu...
I think it is the "sportiest" one of the whole lot
By: COUNT DE MONET : October 31st, 2019-13:38
Nautilus, Overseas and Royal Oak in particular are way too thin to give them any heft on the wrist. In my book the named three are full steel dress watches. The Odyssesus is 11 mm thick and one can tell by the pictures that it wil have some weight on the ...