i like it but don't love it.

Oct 30, 2021,11:29 AM
 

When Lange first introduced honey gold in 2010, I got the 1815 Moonphase and the Lange 1 Tourbillon, both in HG (matching numbers). I did this primarily because HG seemed like a special metal, and I thought Lange wouldn't use it very often. But then, in subsequent years, Lange started making many more honey gold pieces , so the metal became less special in my eyes. Also, I've always like yellow gold a lot, and the appearance of honey gold pales in comparison to YG, so to speak. HG just looks a bit washed out to me, like it doesn't know what it wants to be.

The honey gold Lange 1 Tourbillon ended up being the only Lange I ever owned that I literally never wore. I just didn't like it enough to wear it, for some reason, so it sat for 10 years literally unworn, with the hang tag still attached to the strap. I finally traded it for the (older, preowned) Lange 1 Tourbillon in platinum a few years ago, which I love and wear frequently. I still have and do wear the HG 1815 Moonphase occasionally, but I find that I don't like it as much as many other watches (such as the older Emil Lange 1815 Moonphases).

So that may be more than you wanted to know about how I like my HG! smile


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Lange Honey Gold Zeitwerk Launch Event New York City

 
 By: patrick_y : October 26th, 2021-05:02
Moderator Patrick_y photo documents a special and mysterious Lange & Soehne event in New York City. Lange & Soehne had a special event in New York City, from the invitation I couldn't get any details, I didn't even know what the event was for, was it to l...  

Very well written and entertaining report,

 
 By: Gwai : October 26th, 2021-05:54
thanks for sharing. An illustrious event the likes of which I'd love to attend. Once again. Eventually. Cheers Marc

Very nice of you to say!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:00
I'm glad you found it entertaining! I tried to inject some subtle humor in there! I would've loved to have seen you there! But we'll have to rendezvous in Europe sometime!

I'd love to have that happen.

 
 By: Gwai : October 27th, 2021-19:24
Cheers Marc

Frankly, I haven't even screened the

 
 By: Gwai : October 28th, 2021-10:49
upcoming events in, uh, watchville yet. But that's definitely on my list.

Beautiful watch!

 
 By: Davo : October 26th, 2021-06:11
The Honey Gold really appeals to me. And the dial looks incredible in the dark. Shame there are only 200 of them. Thanks for the report.

As a purchaser of honey gold...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:02
As a purchaser of honey gold, I'm not sure I like it as much as normal yellow or rose gold. Yellow and rose gold have this incredible "richness" and warmth that just makes them likeable. Even bronze is likeable. Copper pots are likeable. But honey gold...... 

You're right! It's pretty much the same watch!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-16:56
The movement has been updated with the movement that's similar to the Zeitwerk with date. It has 2x the power reserve as the original Zeitwerk. It's slightly easier to wind the crown too. And supposedly the movement has become more reliable (time will tel... 

Ahh... Yeah... No brand comes out with anything really new these days...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:13
It's Covid, the brands want a big party to celebrate something truly new. So they're holding back until after Covid. BUT! That's really a silly idea. With so many people working from home and in front of their computers, they have a captive audience. By t... 

The luxury industry is often too cautious!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-04:57
But when it comes to crazy collaborations, they go crazy! Did you see that new Loro Piana collaboration with Hiroshi Fujiwara? I am the target audience and even I don't like it...

Hahaha my friend… love your sarcasm..but

 
 By: moc : October 28th, 2021-05:37
We are so used to just a dial colour change to scream to novelty that in this case, a new movement and a push button seems a revolution!!! I prefer the original version nevertheless, even if less advanced , its more….pure. Mo

Agreed... The original one was a more pure design. Too bad the original version is so hard to use...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-04:46
Winding that watch is so painful! The new one is slightly less painful, but still pretty bad. Thus, the Zeitwerk is great as a "special occasion" watch. But as a regular daily, it's just too painful to wind, and (lest we forget) reliability isn't exactly ... 

+1

 
 By: amanico : October 29th, 2021-18:20

What are the reliability issues? Or did you mean the stopping problem that some of the earliest models had?

 
 By: CR : October 31st, 2021-13:43
Hi Patrick, I was curious about the reliability comment for the OG ZW. When I first got mine (one of the earliest Striking Time movements), it would stop running prematurely. A quick trip to the factory permanently fixed this. I believe some other people ... 

Off-topic question ...

 
 By: diracpoint : October 31st, 2021-14:58
What does OG stand for? I've seen it mentioned at other places also but couldn't figure out the acronym. Regarding winding stiffness, it's probably by design. Quoting from Peter Chong's TimeZone article from 2009 ... "This arrangement allows the lowest fr... 

OG - Original Gangster 🤷

 
 By: russell996 : October 31st, 2021-15:29
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ROFL!!!

 
 By: amanico : October 31st, 2021-17:24

OG indeed!😉

 
 By: diracpoint : October 31st, 2021-19:01

Reliability issues...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 31st, 2021-22:53
ZW has a lot of reliability issues, as it's an incredibly complex watch. The acceleration of the discs during the minute change is violent and requires a fast acceleration and fast deceleration. Most problems arrive from the disc change mechanism. Sometim... 

Thanks Patrick. I hadn't read about those problems before or met anyone who experienced them, but I also don't know any other ZW owners.

 
 By: CR : November 1st, 2021-02:48
Your post from last week got me wearing the ZW again. I hadn't worn it in months. I love that watch, and especially the soft sound of the chime every 15 minutes, heard across the room on a quiet night. It's pretty cool having a watch that actively reminds... 

I liked it off the wrist too!

 
 By: patrick_y : November 3rd, 2021-11:38
I just found the Striking Time to be too big, heavy, and the strap too narrow for my wrist. I like Panerais, Panerai watches are comfortable. They're huge watches, but the straps are wide and soft, and the width spreads the weight of the heavy watch on a ... 

Yes! It would've been fantastic!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:03
And we could've had some good food somewhere, maybe some tasty dessert somewhere would've been in order!

Most definitely!

 
 By: Darron : October 28th, 2021-14:01

It was a fun night indeed!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:05
Great music. Lovely watches. I got to speak with Alkis, the watchmaker for Lange Service in NYC, he's fantastic... Good food. Good champagne (Veuve, but it wasn't too dry). I was surprised to see such a long line, but it turned out to be worth it!

Indeed! We're all waiting for more hobby-centric events worldwide!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 27th, 2021-17:06
I can't wait to be in Singapore again! So many amazing watch collectors in an amazing city!

Thank you CR for reading and commenting!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-04:40
Glad to read your post again! How do you like your HG?

i like it but don't love it.

 
 By: CR : October 30th, 2021-11:29
When Lange first introduced honey gold in 2010, I got the 1815 Moonphase and the Lange 1 Tourbillon, both in HG (matching numbers). I did this primarily because HG seemed like a special metal, and I thought Lange wouldn't use it very often. But then, in s... 

I'm not surprised. I'm not impressed by the HG I bought neither... Would probably like it more if it were normal YG or RG or WG.

 
 By: patrick_y : October 31st, 2021-04:50
Still, the honey gold is beautiful. Just not as beautiful as YG, RG, nor WG.

Thank you for reading!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-04:41
Thank you for your generous comment about my photos! They came out okay, but the smoky dry ice they had in the room definitely made some of the photos grainy. But thanks again! Your appreciation is well appreciated!

Very nice report!

 
 By: diracpoint : October 27th, 2021-22:51
And also for your explanation about 7:52. I learned something new! Two questions ... The 5-minute clock cannot display "52" so how do the audience know it's time to take their seats? (I'm assuming they don't totally rely on the clock) And, do you happen t... 

Semperoper clock

 
 By: eric5 : October 28th, 2021-02:55
The hours are indicated in Roman numerals: I, II, III, IIII, V, ... XII. The minutes are blank, 5, 10, 15, ... 55.

Thank you! 🙏

 
 By: diracpoint : October 28th, 2021-13:52

Excellent questions...

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-04:44
The gong rings at 7:52. But the five minute clock still shows VII:50. Audience only knows to take their seats from the audible gongs. When the time transitions from 7:59 to 8:00, the minutes discs will show 0 for the tens digit and 0 for the single digits... 

Oh! I meant on the Zeitwerk watch the digits transition to :00

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-15:37
For the Clock, it's a blank window. Oops. Sorry!

Minutes disc is blank on the hour

 
 By: russell996 : October 29th, 2021-07:32
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Thank you Russell!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 29th, 2021-15:38