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Agreed.
Apr 29, 2019,08:00 AM
i think Lange and VC are both under appreciated - VC more so where it’s almost always dismissed. Both brands represent the very best of their respective styles and easily beat the competition.
Unfortunately , the hype over PP SS models and professional Rolex is due to the prevalence of blogs and forums on the internet and people jumping on the bandwagon which did nothing but pushed the prices north.
I personally doubt this will last much longer and will reach a point where people will hit the pause button and realize how paying
60k for a SS watch with a mediocre movement (at best) is absolutely ridiculous.
Lange presents excellent value and is by far the best serially produced watch today - even better than most independents and those “better” then Lange are only marginally better with a heft price tag.
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Lange Monday.
By: uaewatchguy : April 29th, 2019-00:04
Watch world is messed up. Such an under appreciated is chasing the hype of steel patek nautilus and Rolex and paying crazy money for these are paying almost $100K for the 5980A if you add another $10k you can get a new Zeitwerk and a platinum Datograph ...
I very much agree!
By: David_S : April 29th, 2019-00:18
But please, I hope Lange continues to be under appreciated ! I have two and no intention to sell . Also congrats on the Zeitwerk, a truly amazing watch! Have you seen the new Z Date? It may very well be my next purchase...
I agree with David_S
By: dedestexhes : April 29th, 2019-00:37
I hope they will stay as is. And if you don't sell your watches, who cares? In the long run, I have not one Lange watch which lost on it's initial purchase value.... again pure hypothetical as none will be sold So let's enjoy the quality of watches instea...
Watch market has never been so polarised
By: Maltie : April 29th, 2019-00:58
To the extent that it doesn’t make any sense anymore. It is a great time to buy beautifully complicated watches from many other brands at unbelievably low prices. The Rolex and Nautilus craziness just keeps going and going, but there is an important sayin...
Yes but
By: Chromatic Fugue : April 29th, 2019-21:01
Hypes can also make an entire industry and break it as well. In the long run, all of our watches — Langes included — may be 17th century Dutch tulips. Enjoy them nonetheless!
Sadly this is true.
By: watch-er : May 1st, 2019-11:37
The SS mania really covers up the over all weak watch market as is suggested in this thread.
How is Lange overated in your view
By: galt : April 29th, 2019-07:08
Interested to hear you expand on what measure do you think Lange is overrated? Is it finishing, production numbers, innovation, design, heritage or something else? In those categories, which brands do you think exceed Lange?
Well , where to start ???
By: ZSHSZ : April 29th, 2019-08:56
Okay, first , Lange has only two case designs , so no innovation there . The finishing is nice , but the “ German Silver “ is a much softer metal than brass, so it’s much easier to work with ,also because of this softness the movements are not temperature...
Here is a different view
By: galt : April 29th, 2019-10:19
There is quite a bit to unpack there. Also, so much room for interpretation—I think in the end—the buyer will have to make up their own mind—as it should be. The arguments put forth below, are not to argue that Lange is “better” but just to offer the coun...
I'm very happy that you commented
By: ZSHSZ : April 29th, 2019-15:30
and expressed your points/perspectives . However I think that some of my points have been misunderstood . What you mentioned as It's not in Lange's tradition, today its more like a weakness . Virtually every brand that plays in the big ligue has to have a...
Maybe you know something Phillip Dufour doesn't.
By: galt : April 29th, 2019-17:36
I think it is quite an assumption, and one you may want to rethink, that Lange wants to and should compete against Rolex or Patek. They precisely don't want to do that IMHO. As such I also simply don't understand your logic that because a brand does not h...
Dear Zsolt
By: David_S : May 1st, 2019-02:17
I'm afraid I also have a divergent view and mostly agree with Galt. The problem in your argument is that you are comparing very different animals with different goals and constraints. It's a bit like arguing that BMW or Audi is better than Porsche or Ferr...
Dear David , I truly appreciate your input and view ,
By: ZSHSZ : May 1st, 2019-06:33
The point I was making in the original post was that when people compare Lange to Patek , I feel that they’re incomparable, because they have different goals, so when someone states that Lange is at the same level as Patek , I feel that they’re wrong , be...
I’m curious
By: TheWindingStem : May 1st, 2019-11:08
About this temperature deviation thing.. is it substantiated with actual data or you are basing it on your experience with the Dato you owned? I’ve owned a couple Lange’s and they were by far the most accurate watches I’ve owned at +\- 1 second per day an...
So I asked around.
By: TheWindingStem : May 16th, 2019-17:41
Regarding your statement that German silver is more prone to temperature change than brass affecting its accuracy. For any horological questions I always reach out to Jack Forster whom I have to credit for his indispensable horological knowledge - Jacks p...
Under no circumstances question Jacks knowledge and expertise,
By: ZSHSZ : May 16th, 2019-19:19
But he’s just like us a human ... I didn’t bashed Lange in any way I just said that it can’t be compared to Patek because Patek, as a brand is way more superior has more variety and more diversity as Lange . About the accuracy what Jack told it sounds goo...
I seen where you are coming from
By: galt : May 1st, 2019-10:42
I think I see where you are coming from. Personally I would compare the 5170 to the 1815 Chronograph rather than the Datograph because the Datograph has the big date feature which makes the watch thicker. The 1815 Chrono is actually thinner than the 5170 ...
Agreed.
By: TheWindingStem : April 29th, 2019-08:00
i think Lange and VC are both under appreciated - VC more so where it’s almost always dismissed. Both brands represent the very best of their respective styles and easily beat the competition. Unfortunately , the hype over PP SS models and professional Ro...
I agree 1000%.
By: NewEnglandWatch : April 30th, 2019-08:56
Zeitwerk is one of the best!
A good point Iqbal!
By: Langeholic : May 21st, 2019-16:44
Lest we forget that the Nautilus is more than a timepiece. It is a badge of honour, a status symbol. The grey market price is a reflection of increased demand from speculators/status seekers and not collectors per se. There is no logic to the Nautilus’s s...
Fully agree with you .
By: Watchonthewrists : May 21st, 2019-23:29
I would def go for a ALS all day . Would love to strap one on the wrist in the near future