Can anyone explained this?

Oct 31, 2020,05:34 AM
 

Hi all,


I recently got a pre-own Lange Datograph 1st Generation ( Ref : 403.032 ). The watch is a 2006 Datograph Rose gold with a silver dial. I even post an incoming thread here. To the best of my knowledge ( and the watch dealer that sold me the watch ), the watch has never been sent for service. 

I was posting to my instagram  www.instagram.com about how how I find the case finishing very admirable and it has this exquisite brush / polished alternating finishing in the case. Here's a picture :







The "big" surprise was when others start to comment that their RG Datograph cases are all fully polished. This is so for 5 owners of the exact same ref that I have personally contacted and verified on instagram. I further learned that Lange don't actually made their own cases and are outsourced to third party. It's still not very clear to me if they are finished by Lange inhouse but for the same reference, how can there be two type of case finishing? Is mine an "oddball"? An accidental mistake? Yet another theory was that 1st Generation RG Datographs are all 100% fully polished because at that time, it was done to ensure better durability of the finishing but I don't see anything wrong with mine. 

To be honest, I personally preferred the case finishing of mine and it looks more interesting but still I am very intrigued. So am posting here hoping to seek answers. And curious what is the side case finishing of your datographs if you own a 1st Generation RG Datograph? 



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Brushed for mine.

 
 By: amanico : October 31st, 2020-05:38
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Thanks for the input

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-05:43
But yours is platinum not rose gold. Platinum has brushed case finishing.

Merci, mon ami. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 31st, 2020-06:10

I am drooling 🤤

 
 By: Watchonthewrist : November 1st, 2020-01:39
Such a gorgeous masterpiece my friend

Alas gone. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : November 1st, 2020-23:25

Reflections, and some stains

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-06:08
only hairline scratches on the case

How do you know it is a Ref : 403.032?

 
 By: BigFatPauli : October 31st, 2020-07:14
That is to say, it could be a Ref. 403.432, which has the brushed case, but yours is missing the bracelet.

403.432 brushed case?

 
 By: dr.ho.rology : October 31st, 2020-08:36
Hey BFP, nice to see you here! Have you seen a 403.432 with a brushed case somewhere?

Likewise!

 
 By: BigFatPauli : October 31st, 2020-09:45
Sorry - I *may* have been having a moment this morning. I was thinking of a 403.041... Which doesn't have a bracelet. In any event, it does look like a 403.041 case (which was brushed). But then this one has the wrong dial. So who knows... Perhaps ALS is ... 

It cant be a 403.041

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-11:46
As that is the ref for the very rare Yellow Jacket, ie Datograph in yellow gold.

I re-check the docs

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-09:22
It's mentioned in the documentation booklet 403.032 and the serial number matches so it is the RG Datograph Silver in strap.

Outsourced Cases

 
 By: WatchEater : October 31st, 2020-07:45
I think Lange started with quite a few outsourced components and then slowly start bringing everything in-house.

Movement

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 31st, 2020-09:17
The reason Lange buy cases is maybe to focus the full on movements, and dials of course.

Lange rose gold middle cases - change from polished to brushed

 
 By: CR : October 31st, 2020-10:44
Until about 2015, Lange fully polished all of their rose gold cases, regardless of the model. Lange did this because of concerns about tarnishing on the brushed surfaces of their rose gold cases -- a concern that was not an issue for all of their other ca... 

Yes, I also heard

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-11:45
.. about what you wrote from another friend who is very familiar with Lange. So the change of the case finishing ( mid section to brush ) is actually relatively recent. Which makes this even more puzzling! Yes, the warranty papers was date stamped 2006 by... 

Ok thanks. Yes, 154XXX is consistent with a mid-2000's watch. So if you look very carefully...

 
 By: CR : October 31st, 2020-18:33
... at all of the caseback screws and the edges of their screw holes under high magnification, are they all absolutely perfect, so that you're positive nobody ever opened that caseback since the watch was originally purchased? That's something I'd be look... 

I think the middle of the case was

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : October 31st, 2020-11:52
brushed later, and not by Lange, the watch original came with polished case... If it had made by Lange, it would have been looking different: more deep brushes in a certain direction. I am sure that if you make detailed pictures and send them to Lange the... 

I did consider this possibility...

 
 By: benlee338 : October 31st, 2020-17:21
But I don't think so, as that will mean the previous owner will have to risk potential problems happening to the watch and also voiding the warranty, unless he did he after the warranty expired. The brushed finish is exactly the same as those posted by Am... 

Mine is fully polished on the case

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : October 31st, 2020-14:45
Rose gold black dial first Gen

Couldn't agree more! [nt]

 
 By: dr.ho.rology : October 31st, 2020-17:08

Fully agree with you on that 😉

 
 By: Watchonthewrist : November 1st, 2020-01:43
I do like that brushed case a lot 😍👌🏻.