Seiko's specs are wildly outside of the normal performance

Aug 07, 2019,12:08 PM
 

If you look around on the web you will see the 4R36 does much better than the Specs Seiko publishes -- actually I saw +45/-30 as specs but people claiming +/- 3 or 5 seconds. 


Maybe 6-12 seconds a day is reasonably good performance that many people report.

The issue is that they are not individually regulated.  At the wholesale price of say $150 how could Seiko afford to spend time on each movement tweaking it? 

So after a few months or years of wearing, if its accuracy is less than you can tolerate, a quick visit to the local watch shop can easily improve it. 

Granted this is not taking the "high road" but it's a commodity product sold to millions of people and likely not worn everyday anyway, so extreme accuracy is relatively unimportant vs style and toughness.

Your Mileage May Vary (as they say) but mine have been much more accurate than the specs.

Cheers

Cazalea

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NEW SEIKO 5 Sport Watch line

 
 By: cazalea : August 7th, 2019-07:07
Seiko sent a press release today announcing the availability of a new line of watches, a fusion of Seiko 5 and Seiko Sports. The new logo is a stylized S indicating this compression of two historic Seiko lines. For sake of visibility, I filtered out the b...  

One of each please ☝️ [nt]

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : August 7th, 2019-07:18

$300 each, more or less -- even getting 5 still in the "petty cash" price range

 
 By: cazalea : August 7th, 2019-07:26
I just added specs, pricing and timing to the bottom of the article. Mike

Great watches...

 
 By: India Whiskey Charlie : August 7th, 2019-09:58
Although it will be tough to choose from 27 variants.

Seiko's specs are wildly outside of the normal performance

 
 By: cazalea : August 7th, 2019-12:08
If you look around on the web you will see the 4R36 does much better than the Specs Seiko publishes -- actually I saw +45/-30 as specs but people claiming +/- 3 or 5 seconds. Maybe 6-12 seconds a day is reasonably good performance that many people report.... 

The specs say +25/-15 for the 6R15 movement in this Seiko ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : August 8th, 2019-01:09
However it is running amazingly accurate: only -1 sec in position crown down over night, + 5 sec crown and dial up. Fair to say chronometer grade. I will observe it further but I understand your concerns fully: on paper it sounds not good. ...  

These are great, something for everyone in terms of styling.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : August 7th, 2019-18:13
I’m liking the Suits.

Thanks for sharing - are they Seiko standard quality?

 
 By: xxcesar : August 7th, 2019-22:13
As a heavy modifier of Seikos, I can see, where they draw the inspiration from, it is a nice idea, but execution looks cheap on the pictures. Have to see in real, but not sold yet.

I would think they're comparable to what you are modifying now

 
 By: cazalea : August 7th, 2019-22:34
Movements are traditional and based on the 7S26 though evolved in many ways. I’m not sure where the cases are made. I believe the images may be computer generated. I’ll look again tomorrow. Mike

Let‘s see

 
 By: xxcesar : August 8th, 2019-01:59
Having some official Seiko colleagues following my insta channel, I might even feel that some of my mods are used as inspiration, but from the pictures I still like mine better in style and quality (not objective view of course). Example: Will need to see... 

Pictures

 
 By: xxcesar : August 8th, 2019-02:00
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So are you saying you inspired Seiko's SKX diver's line like the SKX007 and SKX009?

 
 By: reintitan : August 8th, 2019-11:49
Because these new Seiko 5's are almost exact copies of the SKX line in terms of looks.

Not that much honor

 
 By: xxcesar : August 8th, 2019-13:30
The classic that started with the 6309 is genuine. My point is that the new line looks like a response to the multitude of mods that improve over the Seiko original offering, just like all auto OEMs now have their in-house tuning branch. C.

Nice looking line, I like them.

 
 By: VMM : August 8th, 2019-05:53
Tough watches, fair prices. Vte

I find these OK as they are re-specced SKX divers made to be non-diver "sports" watches

 
 By: reintitan : August 8th, 2019-11:48
The change of movement from the old and tired non-hacking, non-hand-winding 7s26 to the hacking and hand-winding 4R series is a welcome change, but not the others IMHO. Loss of screw-down crown Loss of luminous pip on insert Downgrade of water resistance ... 

Still not convinced....

 
 By: xxcesar : August 8th, 2019-22:13
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