PAM510 vs 111
I was absolutely pleasantly surprised when I saw the new P5000 based pieces AND when I was made aware of the price point, I knew OP got a winner here:
We loose the stripes and gain a full 5 day of power on this in-house movement. All at the cost of ~10% premium. Which one would you choose?
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PAM510 vs 111
I was absolutely pleasantly surprised when I saw the new P5000 based pieces AND when I was made aware of the price point, I knew OP got a winner here: We loose the stripes and gain a full 5 day of power on this in-house movement. All at the cost of ~10% p...
with a PR indicator
on the back side, without any doubt the new PAM 510. None of these 2 for me. Wait for 2014 collection.
Do you feel that PR indicator is essential on an 8-day movement but not critical on a 3-day one?
I had a PAM 190
and the PR indicator was very useful. I like a turn over in my collection every 1 to 2 weeks and do not have to move hands on all of them to correct time. In fact for a 3 day movement, I expect the same but in your proposal only PAM 510 is a new model and...
Adding the pr indicator is possible. Question is the associated cost. i would guess that OP is trying to keep the cost low on the entry levels models such as this.
That's a good question...
It was pretty smooth to wind. But to know how many turns it takes to wind it from stop to fully wound, I guess we have to wait for a more detailed report/review.
I also like this one
And I think we will see different iterations of it in the future : titanium case, brown dial
I like the 510
Well the 339 didn't have a PR indicator and no one had a problem there, but I would like a PR indicator on the back. My 320 has a PR indicator for 3 days power and I find it useful so I guess it has its merits.
You guys are TOUGH to please...
So loose that '8 days' on the dial, we should have a solid winner as entry level Panerai? Having said that, I think OP would like to have a LITTLE differentiation to tell the PAM510 from PAM111, what would you suggest then?
There's one thing you have to understand...
for the Italian true blue Panerai chappies, english words on a Panerai dial (8 days, Black Seal etc) are really...REALLY, unwelcome. Same feeling we have for a nice espresso vs a vast amount of hot black water, called coffee everywhere else in the world :...
So I presume you'll happily settle for 8 Giorni on the dial instead? :-)
But I strongly agree it does spoil the aesthetics. DO AWAY with the "8 days" I echo !
PAM510 definitely for me!!
I'm very delighted to see these new P.5000 movements. It's the beginning of getting rid of all the Panerai's with Unitas movements! Woo hoo! Great step IMO! Cheers, Anthony
Unfortunately I was in a rush and didn't take any more shots of the PAM510.
2 lume colors?
The 510 looks like it has both white and patina(yellowed) lume. It makes the dial look odd.
No brainer -- the 510 for me
Definitely bang for the buck relative to the 111 and I'm a sucker for power reserve. Question is, will the servicing be very costly? Getting a 111 service is very cheap as the ETAs so so easily serviced.
Very good question indeed...
And we probably won't know until they ramp up the production of P5000. However, my guess is that if they can make the movement at a cost that's comparable to the ETA then hopefully the servicing cost should be on similar level.