Kari Voutilainen visits Tokyo!

Oct 17, 2011,06:39 AM
 

Kari Voutilainen Visits Tokyo!

The title says it all smile  I, along with another KV owner (Observatoire AND Chronometer 27) had an opportunity to meet with Mr. Voutilainen ("KV") for the first time in Tokyo.  This was made possible by kind offer by Mr. Masahito Hayashi, who is the proprietor of the high-end jewelry/ watch retail shop - The Carat - in the center of Ginza AND also is/was the student of KV when he was a watchmaker school student.  That is why now The Carat is the sole distributor and authorized dealer of KV in Japan and KV's visit was made possible.  The purpose of the visit was to introduce his new Vingt-8, and we really had a good time.  After the meeting, we left very impressed with his openness and diligence about watchmaking including, of course, this new Vingt-8.

Teacher and student



The other owner, as well as I, was so excited to see him and he threw lots of questions to him about his collection and Vingt-8 very candidly.  I was busy taking pics during that time, but the gist of that conversation and my interview went like this (went into a bit technical details);


The other owner: Why did you NOT come up with the different or new look of the dial?

KV: This IS actually the new look.  We now have new color and new pattern.  This one here is dark navy blue with the touch of purple depending on the light and angle.  One of my favorite colors.  One thing I have noticed is that most people choose Roman numerals which make a beautiful contrast appears in sight, while there are some preferred Arabic.  Consider this my "trademark" or "business card".  It's the matter of taste.



(Note: the color of these photos is as close to what I remember as possible, but a bit enhanced - after all, the color changes, to anyone's eyes, depending on the light and angle.  Really gorgeous color, I thought.)



Was on his own wrist - PG + Brown dial is really nice, too.




























KV: There are also reasons why the dial and the case are in this shape with both models.  The dial - the distance between the glass and dial is soooo close to make the dial "come" to you.  To make it as close as possible, the hour hand is at the hair width distance from the dial because the second hand is completely in the depth of the second subdial.  Of course the minute hand is as close to the hour hand as possible.  And the glass is very slightly domed to give the dial more "depth".  And look at the side - there are two protruding lines all round.  They are not decoration, but to protect the side from getting scratched or dented by carelessly putting it on non-soft surface.  Also, the display back is slightly elevated for aesthetic reason, in comparison to Observatoire.






PPro: How big is your operation now? 

KV: We are now 13-people operation.  I am fortunate that the manufacture and my house is adjacent and very easy for me to go to work smile  But with these people, we can only make 40 pieces a year.


PPro: What are the biggest challenges to create this new movement and new model?

KV: Too many and don't know where to start smile  We have had difficulty getting the parts which satisfy our requirement from outside suppliers - they all belong to or prioritize the orders from the big companies.  So, we had no choice but making the parts ourselves and that was the biggest challenge.  For example, the escapement parts are so difficult to find the satisfactory parts anywhere. In the case of Observatoire, the parts we found with the movement cache were very good.  The technology and skill must have been lost to some extent since then.


PPro: Will you pick up and tell us a few points you had most difficulty in the new movement and the model?

KV: The first point worth mentioning is the escape wheels and the anchor.  Please note here that the bridge and most other parts are made of German Silver, but this escape wheels (note: plural) and the anchor lever are made of steel (heat-treated) in order to make the movement last longer.  Making and polishing these parts were a bit tough.  Now as you can see, there are two escape wheels that are controlled by the new shape anchor to increase the stability and accuracy.  The pinion for the balance wheel is extremely difficult to make as little tolerance is allowed after all the cutting and polishing (note: see the illustration below).


Skeches by Mr. Voutilainen to illustrate the escapement mechanism
















Illustration: top - structure of dial attached to the movement
bottom - the pinion of the balance wheel with so little tolerance




KV: Also, I have hidden the wheels attached to these escape wheels on the dial side, for stable oscillation and aesthetic reasons.  So the escape wheels are controlled (or supported) during impulse locking one after the other and the view of the balance wheel is pretty smooth and beautiful at the same time.





On the left is the display back side, on the right is the dial side - dial side wheels are made of German Silver.
The locking jewel (ruby) is also made by KV himself and set underneath the anchor lever.



KV: And then the dial.  The dial foot are not just inserted into the movement.  Here, I have soldered small pipes inside which are threaded and the dial is actually screwed from the bottom of the movement, which is the display back side.  This is for the shock so that the dial does not go off so easily with certain shock. 

He drew the structure of dial attached to the movement



One of the two screws that attach the dial (center of the photo, big one).




KV: If I may add, the Geneva stripe was done by certain wood - the same as what Mr. Dufour uses is used on this model (not on Observatoire), and the spiral pattern on the ratchet wheel is my trademark - I have developed how to do it.  It is the same spiral as on Observatoire but it is frosted finish but it looks like the spiral by light. It took me over 10 years to master the technique.





All visible wheels in the gear train and the balance weights are made of rose gold





PPro: Observatoire was also free sprung and as I can see, so is Vingt-8.  How do you regulate it?  It must be very narrow range you can regulate.

KV: On the contrary, we can regulate it in the range of two minutes per day.  Look at this pic. The balance wheel was poised perfectly and there are weights (rose gold) on each of the arm and by moving these, it is pretty easy to regulate.  I like free sprung.  Free sprung means less parts and more reliability.


Rose gold balance weight




13.60mm balance wheel with Breguet/Grossmann balance spiral
Escape wheels and the anchor lever are made of the heat-treated steel or carbon steel for durability.




PPro: Well, thank you very much indeed for your time today.
KV: Thank you for coming.


Mr. Voutilainen kindly gave us the famous book - 12 Faces of Time, and autographed it...  Wow, thank you so much.




 




Overall, although he came to introduce his new watch, he was so enthusiastic about the technical details and passion.  We saw that he is really doing this for love and passion.  Next time, I would love to have talk with them over lunch or dinner.   Thank you, Mr. Hayashi for arranging this and thank you, Mr. Voutilainen for your time and interview.

Best,
Ken


PS: Enjoy other various pics with some additional info.


Movement sizes 30.00mm x 5.60mm, 18,000 v.p.h., all visible wheels in the gear train are made of rose gold





The Chronometer 27 that belongs to the other Purist owner.







Main plate and bridges are German silver, base and bridges are made thick for stability/ durability
At the same time, the barrel is made thinner and thus the main spring is lower height and thicker - resulted in the 33% energy saved and the power reserve is extended to about 65 hours.


By P&S camera - color is a bit off, but should give you an idea of how these are made and look in the wild.





























Ken


This message has been edited by KIH on 2011-10-17 08:51:55


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U get all the FUN !

 
 By: flamenco : October 17th, 2011-06:49
Thanks for sharing. Kari takes my breathe away....

thanks flamenco!

 
 By: KIH : October 17th, 2011-18:29
very detailed work, I say.

Too good to read. Thanks

 
 By: terenceho : October 17th, 2011-08:21
Very nice and classy presentation. Thanks for sharing.

ah, you are welcome!

 
 By: KIH : October 17th, 2011-18:30
glad you enjoy reading it.....

Kari shares a colour that is close to my name sake!?

 
 By: BluNotte : October 17th, 2011-09:16
Wow, i better have a look more into the man behind the watches! Ken, your coverage as always, superb! Hah, wonder why i could not do the same when i was in Tokyo! Cheers Stephen

so happy to see you here!

 
 By: amerix : October 17th, 2011-11:34
Hi Stephen, Kari Voutilainen is very much in the spotlight right now, and certainly deserves all of the attention that he is getting, and with standing applause, now including his work for Max. But - you know me - I like the other Finn. A personal thing .... 

Mein Freund!

 
 By: BluNotte : October 17th, 2011-18:28
To hear from you here is rarer than receiving a Platinum watch! And am i glad for it! Yes my eyes are always on the prowl, and it is sometimes not easy to search for the truth that exists. Thanks for the advice, and i shall be seeing you. Tschuss Stephen

Thank you!

 
 By: KIH : October 17th, 2011-18:32
I have been wandering around the Ginza horological district And Kari doesn't travel much... so I guess i was just lucky!

You indeed are my friend!

 
 By: BluNotte : October 18th, 2011-18:38
Un ga totemo yoi ne! Arigatou!

The picture of Kari in the book is a hoot :-)

 
 By: ArthurSG : October 17th, 2011-09:24
I suppose if he's the only indie with that crowning glory it does work... no offence meant in any way, I just found it funny.

Thanks, Ronald! [nt]

 
 By: KIH : October 17th, 2011-18:32
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Thanks Ken.

 
 By: SJX : October 17th, 2011-19:29
Very interesting report. - SJX

Thanks, SJX! [nt]

 
 By: KIH : October 18th, 2011-09:56
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THANK YOU KEN!!

 
 By: sidneyc : October 17th, 2011-20:37
Nice nice nice!! I've been waiting for this Definitely well worth the wait Ken! Thanks for the gorgeous photos and write up! Now after seeing your photos, you've made the decision all the more harder for me now... looking at that blue dial I'm..... speech... 

Lucky you. :)

 
 By: VMM : October 18th, 2011-02:22
It would be great to have the same opportunity. Maybe some day, who knows? Kari's work is admirable, his timepieces reflect (to me) something that a very few brands have, and that's something to admire. Looking at those movement I feel peace of mind. Ther... 

You are welcome!

 
 By: KIH : October 18th, 2011-09:58
It is really to each his/her own and personal taste, but Kari's models are very my type. Ken

Brilliant report, Ken!

 
 By: Gary G : October 18th, 2011-03:56
Many many thanks for this fantastic job! I learned many things that I did not know before, including the very interesting switch to wood as used by PD for striping. And, great photos! To know Kari is to treasure his watches. Wear yours in great health, an... 

Yes, I wanted to share what not many people know about.

 
 By: KIH : October 18th, 2011-10:00
This model deserves deeper dig and detailed technical stuff and pics, I thought. Many thanks for your kind words. Coming from you about the pic is really something Ken

Great post! Domo Ken-san! [nt]

 
 By: Davo : October 18th, 2011-13:19
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Love the Vingt-8

 
 By: fernando : October 18th, 2011-22:54
In fact, this would be my favorite pick for the GPHG Men's Watch prize scheduled for the 18th. Nov. 2011. Thanks Ken F

Kari seems to the watchmaker of favour currently

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 18th, 2011-23:48
Great QnA session with him, always great to hear from the watchmaker himself. Best, Horo

That's the beauty of the fun part of independent brands.

 
 By: KIH : October 19th, 2011-14:47
There is a reason why he is the favorite by many....

amazing post.

 
 By: SamEE : October 19th, 2011-17:40
How lucky you are to get to see and interview Kari. The post was very informative and entertaining. Thanks for the great post. Best SamEE