Carillon vs. grande sonnerie

Jul 27, 2007,09:09 AM
 

Now that you mention the Genghis Khan, I realised I made a mistake in my terminolgy. A carillon is not necessarily a grande sonnerie, as a grande et petite sonnerie strikes the time en passant, or as it passes, in other words a minute repeater that runs automatically. A carillon, on the other hand, strikes a series of notes using 3 or more gongs.

The GP Opera watches and the Genghis Khan are carillons - they have 3 gongs and they strike the Westminster chimes on the hour; all use a similar Claret base movement. So these are not grande sonneries as they cannot chime the time as it passes.

In contrast, the AP grande sonnerie carillon strikes the time as it passes with 3 gongs, hence the name. It is in essence a 3 gong grande sonnerie.

Finally, the Gerald Genta grande sonnerie with Wesminster carillon does all of the above. It strikes the time as it passes on 4 gongs, and the Wesminster tune on the hour. Needless to say, the Genta is the most expensive, listing at over a million francs. In comparison, the other watches mentioned here cost a palty 400,000-600,000 francs.

Therefore the only companies that make a grande sonnerie with carillon are AP and Genta, while Claret is the only supplier of Wesminster carillon movements which are found in GP and UN.

- SJX

This message has been edited by SJX on 2007-07-27 09:50:32

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Chronoswiss Quarter Repeater

 
 By: Manutd_MP : July 26th, 2007-19:26
Hi all, I had the chance to take a closer look at the Chronoswiss repeater few days ago. The chime is amazingly sweet and beautiful. Since i am no watch expert, may i summrise that the minute repeater is actually more complicated than the quarter repeater... 

Enicar and the hierachy of striking watches

 
 By: SJX : July 27th, 2007-01:41
I've heard several, and some sounded excellent while others were lousy. It will be best to sample several before purchasing. The Chronoswiss is based on an Enicar calibre, it is not ETA, rather it is an old movement that Chronoswiss acquired and now uses ... 

Maybe I'm wrong,>>>

 
 By: amanico : July 27th, 2007-04:03
But Girard Perregaux also produces a carillon, right? The Opera 3, for example. BTW, thanks for these complete precisions.Amazing, as always! Nicolas

You're right, I forgot that

 
 By: SJX : July 27th, 2007-04:21
The Opera 1 and 2 are Westminster Carillon with 4 gongs. Along with the Gerald Genta grand sonnerie, they have the most number of gongs in a wristwatch. In recent years only the Patek Star Calibre supercomplication pocket watch has more gongs, 5! The Oper... 

Carillon vs. grande sonnerie

 
 By: SJX : July 27th, 2007-09:09
Now that you mention the Genghis Khan, I realised I made a mistake in my terminolgy. A carillon is not necessarily a grande sonnerie, as a grande et petite sonnerie strikes the time en passant , or as it passes, in other words a minute repeater that runs ... 

Excellent info!

 
 By: HW : December 20th, 2007-06:25

You learn something every day here...!!!

 
 By: Andy : July 27th, 2007-08:12
Thanks for the list. Andy.

Thanks a million

 
 By: Manutd_MP : July 29th, 2007-18:29