I'm unsure about the hour, minute and running seconds ...

Apr 19, 2013,07:20 AM
 

I questioned a friend, that is a Speedmaster "addict" and he sent to me pictures from his Japanese Speedmaster Book.

There we could locate one, with this dial and red chronograph hand but all other hands are white.

Notice alto that the Omega logo is also in red.

Here are the pics (sorry, the pics are from his mobile phone):

1) The book cover





2) The book page





3) A close up shot, where we can see more (sort of) details





I go to try to take a better full page picture this weekend and somebody can translate the text.

My friend also stated that this watch is VERY RARE and he, in 20+ years collecting Speedmasters never saw one in flesh.

Cheers,

Nilo


 

 



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Omega Speedmaster Racing Dial

 
 By: brevetplus : April 5th, 2013-10:21
A very rare Omega Speedmaster with a stunning racing dial. ...  

Love these racing dials

 
 By: Aless156 : April 5th, 2013-12:37
Very nice! what's reference? is it a 145.022 ST-69? It's a shame these dials are so rare.

Is that the late 60's edition?

 
 By: ztirual : April 5th, 2013-12:52
Then, yes a very nice catch indeed. May I ask you as the owner to give us a bit more information about your watch? Best Z'

Yes, from 1967

 
 By: brevetplus : April 5th, 2013-16:02
nt

that is a rare beauty

 
 By: G99 : April 6th, 2013-02:53
i've never seen one with the red hands before although i have heard rumours. they really finish it off perfectly. a very nice addition to anyones collection. in fact a dream addition. enjoy Graham

Wonderful

 
 By: peitron : April 16th, 2013-17:17
A beaut! The new "racing" dial on the Speedmaster Pro does not do this piece justice.

I'm unsure about the hour, minute and running seconds ...

 
 By: nilomis : April 19th, 2013-07:20
I questioned a friend, that is a Speedmaster "addict" and he sent to me pictures from his Japanese Speedmaster Book. There we could locate one, with this dial and red chronograph hand but all other hands are white. Notice alto that the Omega logo is also ...  

I have that book and...

 
 By: G99 : April 19th, 2013-07:28
I have that book and also one on seamasters. I would like to get them translated one day. I need to find a Japanese student who needs money :) G On 19 Apr 2013 15:20, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* nilomis (registered) on... 

Nilo,i've noticed a couple of other things that are different as well

 
 By: G99 : April 19th, 2013-14:24
In the book the red chrono second hand is a moonwatch hand with a lume diamond at the point, but brevets watch has a mkII red chrono seconds hand. A simple point and flat rear end. Sadly the picture wont expand enough to see if the small hands have been p... 

Dear Brevetplus

 
 By: ztirual : April 19th, 2013-14:01
May I kindly refer to my post? Very nice of you to post one picture of your watch but a bit naughty not to give any additional information. Unless you haven't got a clue. May I ask you about the reference and diameter of your watch? This would help toward... 

Interesting question ztirual amd i...

 
 By: G99 : April 19th, 2013-14:07
Interesting question ztirual amd i cant believe we havent asked it before as it is really the pivotal question. The different references could mean different movements as this was the change over period. I will await brevets response. Best G On 19 Apr 201... 

Lets forget abou this post!

 
 By: nilomis : April 19th, 2013-15:27
Team Mr. "Brevetplus" runs a site that especialises in doing "customizations" of dials and cases. The "rarity" that we are discussing may be one of his works. Nilo Note: PM me and I can provide the site link.

There are a few things...

 
 By: G99 : April 19th, 2013-15:33
There are a few things i could say, but i'm too much of a gentleman. A deliberate deception is not really behaviour we expect on this forum. Very disappointing. G On 19 Apr 2013 23:27, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* nilom... 

This is a genuine racing dial from 1968....

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-12:44
The case was 145.012 67 They were made in 1968 and I have seen three I owned one 4 years ago And posted it here on purists please check speedmaster racing dial 1968 Or go to my gallery The final proof is it is in the big omega book they produced at the ti... 

Imran, The dial may be...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-12:46
Imran, The dial may be correct, but are the hands correct? Best G On 20 Apr 2013 20:45, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran in london (registered) on April 20th, 2013 - 12:44 > > *Title: This is a genuine racing dial fro... 

Yes mate the one in that Japan book has wrong hands...

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-12:49
There was a racing dial with these hands sold in Bonhams And Christies I believe also

Okey dokey. I do view...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-12:53
Okey dokey. I do view the Omegamania catalogue with suspicion as there were errors, but i trust your experience and knowledge so i'm satisfied :) Pm coming Best G On 20 Apr 2013 20:49, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran... 

Link below to the one I used to own

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-12:56
It wasn't in omegamania auction but in that huge omega book Give us half an hour ill dig it up

Your link doesnt work. G...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-12:58
Your link doesnt work. G On 20 Apr 2013 20:56, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran in london (registered) on April 20th, 2013 - 12:56 > > *Title: Link below to the one I used to own > * > > *

here are the pics fro the Omega bible: journey in time

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-13:50
I think this shoulkd kick things into touch as they say...... or Nilomis.......you're nicked..... LOL :) ...  

Thanks Imran. It does show...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-13:55
Thanks Imran. It does show that Mr brevets watch has the incorrect centre second hand, but thats allowable bearing in mind how difficult a red one would be to replace :) You are a star. G *Alert from:* www:watchprosite *Posted By:* imran in london (regist... 

interestingly another one on another site (speedy tuesday-clue), also showed a white

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-14:01
chrono central hand............. speak soon mate keep well Imran

There are more things on...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-14:03
There are more things on heaven and Omega than we can ever know about :) Best G On 20 Apr 2013 22:01, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran in london (registered) on April 20th, 2013 - 14:01 > > *Title: interestingly anoth... 

No, my mind is closed...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-14:10
No, my mind is closed to anything else unusual tonight. I cant cope with it :) G On 20 Apr 2013 22:07, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran in london (registered) on April 20th, 2013 - 14:07 > > *Title: heaven is less com... 

Chrono hand is white ...

 
 By: nilomis : April 20th, 2013-14:07
s white or my old eyes are seeing things? Another picture, from the Internet: In any case, the one from the original poster, is incorrect. Imran - as we say here: "Muito bem". Cheers, Nilo ...  

technically...yes and no.....red central hand was available at that time tooo.....Ultraman

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-14:21
who knows the secret....! pic credis watchuseek and Fratellowatches as you can see, all of this was available arounf 1968...would not have been difficult to put the red hand on! nothing can be taken for granted... best Imran ...  

Arrghh. I want to hide...

 
 By: G99 : April 20th, 2013-14:25
Arrghh. I want to hide under a stone :) G On 20 Apr 2013 22:21, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* imran in london (registered) on April 20th, 2013 - 14:21 > > *Title: technically...yes and no.....red central hand was availab... 

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! [nt]

 
 By: Miranda : April 20th, 2013-14:26

Let's ...

 
 By: ztirual : April 20th, 2013-14:31
Thanks for this info Nilo. +1 BR Z'

greaT

 
 By: watchlux : April 22nd, 2013-13:57
kinda racer dial more sporty i think