Is anyone able to provide me detailed information of this watch?

Jul 03, 2017,00:08 AM
 

I bought this watch in a Hong Kong AD shop in 2003, but since then I never saw this version again, not even on the internet. It's not the normal version of dual time... Does anyone happen to know about this watch?





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Thank you for the shots

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 3rd, 2017-04:08
Really strange because the Arab indexes make me think to the 15190 or Nick Faldo limited edition. You should contact this website to know more about your timepiece: Best wishes Alkiro

Even if the rest of the watch is genuine, I honestly believe that dial is 3rd party.

 
 By: anonymous09 : July 3rd, 2017-06:55
The reason being mainly that the tapisserie is wrong for the model, based on the serial number. The lume looks poorly done, and the PR fonts are very different from the others, and I don’t believe AP would ever make the numerals in the second time zone su... 

I disagree about the dial, based on the tapisserie, but would be happy for my suspicions to be proven wrong.

 
 By: anonymous09 : July 3rd, 2017-08:10
I hope for the OP’s sake that it is as you say, and the lack of photos online is nothing more than a sign of its rarity.

Thank you for sharing this very rare reference with us....

 
 By: SALMANPK : July 3rd, 2017-07:49
Many of us have never seen this one before, so we need your help to solve the mystery. I need you to go to a good watch maker, let him open up the watch and take out the movement, under the movement, inside the backcase, there will be a serial number engr... 

Jaeger-LeCoultre movement...

 
 By: watchme : July 3rd, 2017-07:27
but without the 24-hour timezone indicator for the 2nd timezone. Different proportions and lume than I've ever seen. Could have been a LE for a local dealer. -Dean

Yes, I will have this one solved.

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 3rd, 2017-09:09
I got it from a very large group store here, so it would not be fake by any means. I asked many local watch shops here, but none of them had seen this one before. So it would be interesting to find out more about it...

Found Another One

 
 By: SALMANPK : July 3rd, 2017-15:17
From the HK Based Dream Watch S ...  

Well done Salman, and apologies to the OP for suggesting he might be in possession of a fake or fraken.

 
 By: anonymous09 : July 3rd, 2017-15:38
Interestingly that site/dealer was the only one with the model number – you could contribute to the Royal Oak Club’s archive with a photo of it.

Thank You, when someone has been around APs from all generations for the last 17 years you can spot the fakes and the originals, this particular 36mm Royal Oak...

 
 By: SALMANPK : July 3rd, 2017-16:23
Dual Time dial made for the 125th Anniversary of Audemars Piguet is a very rare reference. I hope the OP sends an email to the factory so they can tell him how many they exactly made. Maybe 25 pieces? S

Good work buddy! [nt]

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : July 4th, 2017-00:06

Going fine so far thanks. Honestly no idea...

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : July 5th, 2017-04:32
As you know, at that time there were 3 pieces, the blue, the charcoal and the silver/white. They always seemed to all be in stock before the 2012 decision to really limit it, but I don't the sales volumes. Everyone seems to want or have the blue. I guess ... 

My Pleasure, it was a fun little treasure hunt LoooL, never seen it before, it's a cool Royal Oak at 36mm :-), some really nice pieces in this size...

 
 By: SALMANPK : July 8th, 2017-04:14
I remember seeing one with Tantalum and Rosegold, really striking piece. this era from Audemars Piguet amongst others (the 1950s produced very beautiful and elegant pieces) produced very interesting creations, AP was not as well known as today and product... 

Regarding RO models, 36mm is a good size for me up to 39mm (my ROO Triple Date)

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 8th, 2017-06:23
I'm really happy to own this one with its really appealing dial (the only RO with a drawing to my knowledge). Best wishes Alkiro ...  

Really cool. Any shot of this forest?

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 8th, 2017-07:53
Best wishes Alkiro

Forêt du Risoux

 
 By: SALMANPK : July 8th, 2017-14:57
The Gang on the Audemars Piguet Discovery Trail in the Risoux Forest. S ...  

Yes not so bad thank you 😊

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 9th, 2017-00:44
Best wishes Alkiro

Sorry I had not replied, I was without access these past days.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 4th, 2017-19:49
I do vaguely recall seeing a photo of this watch some years ago. It appears Sal has taken charge and provided us all with good information. Thanks everyone.

Its fun to unrival mystery

 
 By: Watches4ever : July 11th, 2017-01:57
After reading all the posts, I have done some research since I reside in Hong Kong and I have the following findings. However it would be best to unscrew the case back to see the actual movement if its a genuine AP or something else. Just now I went up to... 

Thanks for your reply and info, Ian.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 11th, 2017-12:14
I have just gone ahead and forwarded a request to my contact at AP to see if he can lend some clarifying information. If I receive anything back, I will post it here.

I have confirmed with Audemars Piguet. This watch is not authentic.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 11th, 2017-18:17
Sorry to burst the bubble, it is a fake.

MichaelC, thanks for the call, a fake it is..

 
 By: Watches4ever : July 12th, 2017-01:07
I wonder how much Ray8080 pays for this back in 2003...

King Fook

 
 By: @openworked : July 12th, 2017-02:47
But how did the watch end up in one of the King Fook stores!? As mentioned, this store chain exists all over Hong Kong.

I have no idea

 
 By: Watches4ever : July 12th, 2017-03:13
But surely someone within the store has one or two pieces ready to sell to tourists. This kind of "dirty" selling used to happen along Kowloon Tsim Sha Tsui area few years back. As tourist return home to discover what they thought they bought turned out t... 

King Fook ....

 
 By: dhirengopal2 : July 12th, 2017-05:20
Even if this is a fake sold through King Fook I am sure that Ray must have paid for it by credit card in that case the money goes to the company .... even in case he paid by cash I am sure Ray took an invoice so that's proof enough of taking legal action ... 

Great detective work

 
 By: Joepny : July 12th, 2017-07:03
but I am sorry for the owner of the watch. It is a shame that these things happen. I will be sure to avoid that retailer in the future.

I always buy from AP HK @ IFC

 
 By: Watches4ever : July 12th, 2017-07:40
AD usually lure customer by offering 10% discount or give out straps. But they never have the limited edition pieces immediately after release. Buying from AP-HK also build up a good customer relationship, to me that's far more important than getting disc... 

Good to know

 
 By: Joepny : July 12th, 2017-07:47
It makes sense to build a relationship directly with the manufacturer if you are in it for the long-term. I really hope MichaelC or some PuristS with contacts to AP and Ray0808 tell AP the full story and then AP can take an action against the retailer, es... 

No loss in trying

 
 By: Watches4ever : July 12th, 2017-08:05
But seeing that it happened 13 years ago, unless Ray8080 can still produced the invoice and report case to authority. Then to track down the salesman might be harder to establish whether he was actually employed or part time etc. That's why I always tell ... 

I can't add anything specific to this case. Regarding AP's strategy against fake watches...

 
 By: MichaelC : July 12th, 2017-08:08
This brand is extremely vigilant and fights the good fight. I don't see this as hurting AP's image at all. They did not make the fake watch, instead they make products so desirable that everyone wants to copy them (even some real brands, we clearly see AP... 

I understand

 
 By: Joepny : July 12th, 2017-08:18
it is not really AP's fault that crooks make counterfeits of their products. It just makes me so infuriated to think about it and the funny thing is I didn't lose a penny myself. I hope that specific HK retailer suffers some great embarrassment. (and yes ... 

I am with you my Friend

 
 By: MichaelC : July 12th, 2017-08:39
For as much as we all are concerned with this topic, shouldn't we be able to believe we can walk into a reputable dealer and only handle authentic watches? Reselling is a massive business, but there are certainly companies that do it the right way and onl... 

Thanks everyone for your help.

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 12th, 2017-08:12
I am on a driving vacation and so did not come here the past two days. Regarding King Fook, it is a very big group, and it is hard to believe that it sells or sold fake watches. If so, then it is a very big issue. I will find it out when I am back in town... 

I have asked AP in Hong Kong. They do have this reference and this watch. They even e-mailed me the picture of the exact same watch (at least the same dial and look).

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 13th, 2017-20:27
I will go directly when I am back in town. Honestly, I don't quite believe King Fook sold fake products. It is somewhat feeling like Wempe selling fake watches.... Also, all the touches and movements of the watch are very fine, definitely not easy to be p... 

In fairness to my contact at AP, looking at these pictures is not the same as handling the watch.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 13th, 2017-20:32
In the reply to me, the big concern was dial. It looks quite rough. Who can really tell without physically examining it? Please keep us posted!

I have a new message confirming this dial style was made by AP.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 14th, 2017-21:06
I sent a link to this thread, and in some of the photos it is very difficult to tell. That was the reason for concern. I compared your reference number, and it is correct for the dial.

Thanks Mike! [nt]

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 24th, 2017-20:27