Omega - thanks Mark,

thanks Mark,

May 09, 2010,17:59 PM

It was the sentence,'Of course the purists here can debate whether the enamel should be called a Speedmaster, etc' that made me feel that you were needlessly defensive and apologetic about your Speedmaster. I know and you know that you never uttered the word 'apology', yet nevertheless, the sentence quoted conveys a sense of apology to fellow purists for the fact that it's not a professional. In the old outdated Maddox school of thinking, the prejudice is that a Speedmaster should be a tool watch, yet your enamel Speedy is far, far from that. Can't a Speedmaster be luxurious and oplulent just like yours? Is a moonphase, GMT or split second Speedmaster, a Speedmaster? The answer to all of these is an emphatic, yes! What could discriminate between all the Speedmasters but prejudice?

It should also be said that the Speedmaster was never originally designed to go to the moon and the 321 movement, was lol, originally though to be for lawyers and doctors and people like that! By this way of thinking the conclusion is that the 321 is not a 'real' Speedy too. In logic, admittedly something Maddox didn't know too much about, this is called a, 'reductio ad absurdum'. Only a troll could insist, with such bloody mindedness over the course of a lifetime, a point of view that rests on its own silly conclusions and discriminates against thousands of other Speedmaster owners just like you.

Are we allowed to discuss this topic without the fear of banning? I'd like to know this if this topic is going to be pursued further.

In Defense of Omega 3313 Movement: Amazing Accuracy

By: markieesq : May 8th, 2010-14:05

Greetings: I recently purchased the Co-axial Enamel Speedmaster. I also own a Speedy from 1972, my very first watch which is very dear to me. I was very reluctant to purchase this watch. I had read all the negative press about this movement. I read what t...

a very interesting and pertinent post. Some observations...

By: Pistol Pete : May 9th, 2010-07:32

Firstly congratulations on owning such a marvelous watch as the Datograph. I also congratulate you on owning a beautiful enamel 3313 Speedmaster and sharing with us some of it's great qualities. In fact, a tuned caliber 3313 is deadly. Indeed, my wife's 3...

I Was Not Apologizing For The Enamel

By: markieesq : May 9th, 2010-09:33

Pete: Thanks for your thoughtful response to my post. My 1972 Speedy is the 861 which is (IMHO) a down-grade from the 321. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what make the Speedy a "Professional". That is what makes these forums so...

thanks Mark,

By: Pistol Pete : May 9th, 2010-17:59

In defense of the deceased...

By: Ruckdee : May 10th, 2010-04:07

I am quite shocked and saddened to see such an angry opinion against Chuck. "Bloody mindedness over the course of a lifetime?" Come on... He doesn't deserve this. To disagree with Chuck or anyone is one thing. We all have the right to our own opinion and ...

In defence of the living

By: Pistol Pete : May 10th, 2010-08:15

I couldn't agree more that banning is justified when disagreements become personal attacks against members. I think you need to be reminded that Maddox is neither a member or a person any more. I find your entire post to be on the level of this blunder. I...

Pete you have no defence.....

By: Bill Sohne : May 10th, 2010-20:44

Hi Pete That is what Chuck would have said to you... please see me new post. omega.watchprosite.com Bill Sohne

Some told you politely, I will do it bluntly...

By: mac_omega : May 11th, 2010-12:09

Hi Pete, disregard the content and topic - I do not like your style... Either you try to write and argue in a style where nobody must feel offended - otherwise it would be better to stay away from this forum! There are other fora... maybe they like your r...

Having read everything you said...

By: Ruckdee : May 12th, 2010-04:54

... I think it is in the best interest of the forum for me to keep my silence. I have no intention of provoking you and I am sorry if anything I said caused you this much anger. Peace. Ruckdee

Everything can be discussed in a polite way, Pistol Pete.

By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-04:23

You ask a good question, which comes over the only Speedmaster: " Is a toolwatch still a toolwatch if it receives some sophistications ". You gave your point of view in a well argumented way, BUT, to me, it was useless to say what you said about Chuck Mad...

Congratulations on the accuracy of your watch.

By: Ruckdee : May 10th, 2010-03:31

It is almost spot on indeed. And, yes, many people (myself included) tend to refer to the reviews and/or the opinions originated from the time this family of movements was still in its glitchy infancy stage. Ruckdee

Thank You Ruckdee

By: markieesq : May 11th, 2010-20:00

With all the side issues involved with this thread, my original post somehow got lost. I thank you for your kind words. It's a nice feeling to put on a watch and really enjoy wearing it. And the nice thing is that people can get that enjoyment at price po...

My pleasure, Mark.

By: Ruckdee : May 12th, 2010-05:08

I know exactly what you mean. There is a local forum in my language that I frequent. All the members would discuss anything from a Seiko to a Philippe Dufour and beyond. The only problem seems to be that one watch is never enough. Not with all those stimu...